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Leeds United Arbitration Latest

It’s day 2 of the arbitration hearing in London as Leeds chairman Ken Bates looks to get back the 15 points that were unjustly removed at the start of this League One season, and the other clubs in and around the Whites table-wise have started to mouth off a bit.

Sir Philip Otton, Leaver and lawyer Peter Cadman will consider whether it is thought to have been an unjust punishment to randomly force Leeds to start on -15 points, something which may well have a major impact on the clubs future should promotion not be achieved.

The hearing is believed to be rumbling on through into Friday, however a public announcement regarding the findings may not be available until the start of next week.

Now to the whiners:

Carlisle United boss John Ward believes that the 15 point penalty must stand, as it would be unfair on Leeds’ fellow promotion chasers.

An interesting point, must be because the unfair advantage they voted for at the start of the season has come back to bite them on the backside!

“I think Leeds will get something back,” said the Carlisle manager.

“The goalposts will have been changed with three games to go which would be strange”

“Rules are made at the beginning of the season and should be adhered to.”


Doncaster Rovers chairman John Ryan believes it would be ‘an incredibly sad day for football’ if Leeds United’s season-long fight brought about a successful result. Speaking to the BBC he said:

“In my opinion they will fail. If they do succeed it would be an incredibly sad day for football.

“It would actually mean that promotion could be decided in a court of law.”

“What would happen next? Would Bournemouth, Luton, Rotherham - all the other teams that have lost 10 points, take on the Football League? I think it's a nonsense.”


Last but by no means least, it’s a man well known for having the odd moan, Swansea City gaffer Roberto Martinez predicts WAR if Leeds were successful in overturning the pre-season penalty.

“Leeds are in a play-off position and I think they should stay in a play-off position.

“If anything else happens you won't have heard the last of it because teams like
Tranmere, Southend, Nottingham Forest, Doncaster, Carlisle and ourselves will all be affected.”

“Everyone will take their own route and it would be a massive war.”

War…huh…yeah…what is it good for?

15 Points back, that’s what!

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Writer: LUFC1 Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday April 17 2008

Time: 5:19PM

Your Comments

Should you get a further points deduction if your request is turned down? That would make me happy.
BBC say on Look North that result of tribunal will not be given for 3 to 4 weeks!! For Gods sake how long must this go on for.
It wasn't an unfair points deduction. You cheated. You got punished.
God Almighty
Exploiting loopholes isn`t illegal-(big successful businessmen do it everyday!) But blackmail IS! "Lord" Mawhinney? I expect your letter of resignation on my desk Monday morning! And what on earth do Doncaster and Carlisle think they`re going to say to the court if they take "so-called" legal action over the 15 points? "Well, er.. If we thought Leeds were going to get the points back we would have played better!" Ha, ha, ha, what a joke!
Rotherham White
God almighty, you show a complete lack of knowledge about what happened. you`re wrong.You`re a dick.
I think that all this moaning is sour grapes, if Leeds get there points back, they are points that have been won during the season, not a freebie. If these teams claiming that it is "unfair" had earned enough points, they would not be in this position. Leeds were deducted 10 points last season and a further 15 the following season, thats what is unfair, further more, I am keeping a close eye on all the other clubs that have recently gone into administration, lets see if they are treated the same way!
Quite agree LEEDSMENTAL1 Most of those cry babie out there don't understand the legal side on why this happend, its just sour grapes. If Leeds av broken the law then like most Leeds faithful we will av to except it. But if the tribunal goe's Leeds way ,Carlise,Doncaster or whoever stop crying in your beer & get a life. Leeds & proud
pete mc
rules are riles and if they are broken then penalties are handed out. This whole thing is a farce. You have a dodgy owner, who has many, many a dodgy deal and did tried it with your club. Playoffs for you and then a possible another season in L1.
Rules are rules but I do believe that part of the Leeds argument is that this -15 point malarky was conceived on the spot by the league / league chairmen!
As a spurs fan and being totally neutral my opinion on the matter is this. I think the way Bates handled the administration at the end of last season was clearly dodgy, and a 10point penalty should have been awarded and it would of been fair as thats what other teams are deducted when they go into administration. However the docking of 15points is nothing short of Scandalous!!! It was a clear attempt at denying you promotion and possibly even getting you relegated by the other league chairmen. Its a digrace the way you have been treated especially when you think at this stage of the season that extra 5 points could be the difference between a play off spot and nothing. I hope you get the 5 points back you deserve and i hope you get promoted. Youre a big club and belong in the prem.
no what scandalous is ken bates putting leeds in to adminitstration when they new they wer relagated already, and then buying the club back for next to nothing. that is scandalous,and fraud! And i thought if you go outside the FA and go to court to deal with these kind of things then you get kicked out of the league? youre lucky youre still even here boys. Theres no way youre gona get it bak... and if you do then its stupid. swansea till i die!
You signed an agreement getting the golden share back in exchange for the points deduction. Ie, you agreed to it. Is that how meaningless your 'word' actually is? Frankly you should never have had your share back. Then all of this wouldn't have mattered because there would have been no Leeds United. So you guys should count yourselves fortunate to even be speaking about a play off place
JEALOUSEY! Yet more cry babies. While Getting the biggest crowds in Div1 & pulling more away fans than any other club to come & watch a decent team play. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE LEEDS UNITED. So all you minor clubs be greatful you play in front of Big crowds & Enjoy it while it last. LEEDS & PROUD.
pete mc
Exploiting a loophole is`nt fraud you moron, if there was a law against it we would`nt have been allowed to do it....they`ve tried to punish us for something that is legal and they`re gonna come out of it looking stupid because you can`t punish somebody if they have`nt broke a rule!

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